Genealogy of Claire, Alex, Sam &
Genny Jamison October,
2008
The Zneimer side by
This file combines both a lineal descent chart and an ancestry
chart simultaneously. It is broken up by
generations, with siblings listed adjacently where possible. Use the hyperlinks to travel up or down
generations. Direct ancestors are listed
in italicized fonts.
Families: Zneimer, Rosenstein, Yates, Hertz, Perlmann,
Behr
This Genealogy
lists younger generations near the top, and the oldest known generations at the
bottom. Frequently I use hyperlinks to
link children to their parents. This
genealogy is best viewed on-line, rather than in print, and in an application
that supports the hyperlinks.
See also http://groups.yahoo.com/group/zneimer
for Zneimer family genealogy.
go to main genealogy page
Generation 1
Families (parents):
Removed to a
non-public file.
Generation 2
Families (grandparents):
Removed to a
non-public file.
Generation 3
Families (great-grandparents):
--------- Grand Children of Samuel Zneimer
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--------- Children of Nicholas Zneimer
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Joseph William Zneimer [father Nicholas Zneimer]
and Helen Frances Ure [parents]
md. 12/11/1927
Marilyn b
7/8/1929 d 6/4/2001 in
Try here for her
obit: http://www.townonline.com/metro/wellesley/obit/
Joseph Zneimer graduated
from
Joseph was a banker, before
joining the Episcopal Priesthood. He and
Helen lived in NYC, then
The Reverend Canon Joseph William Zneimer’s obituary.
Joe was a banker in
1930 Federal Census, listed under “Joseph
W. Znermer”; Irvington Township, Essex Co, NJ
Joseph W., age 28 (married at 23); born in
NJ, father NY, mother
Helen F., age 25 (married at 20); born in
NJ, father NY, mother NJ; no occupation
Marlin(!) J., age 9 mo.
Nicholas Zneimer Jr. [father Nicholas Zneimer] and
Marian xx md 1920
John M (Jack)
b 1925
Lived in IL.
Mom gave me a copy of his certificate of birth, completed in 1942.
Nicholas’s wife:
Marion Zneimer (7/1/1891-8/1973) of
6/2004: Marian
Zneimer, dau. of Michael Jolkowski / Actaboski & Anna Mase? –ancestry.com
msg board.
Military Record:
Nicolas Zneimer, Jr, Corporal 35th infantry, Company I,
1930 Federal Census, “Nicolas Zneimer”,
Illinois, Cook Co,
Nicolas,
age 39, born in
Technical
Engineer, Hotel Supply
Marian,
35, md age 25, born Ill, parents
John
M., 4 & 10 months
1920 Federal Census …
3/2006:
ancestry.com lists a WWI draft card for Nicolas Zneimer Jr.
cannot view it; Cook,
Also, lookup in 1930 census: “John Zananer” born 1986, in Cook,
Benjamin George Zneimer [father Nicholas Zneimer] and Mabel Galloway md.
(Edith) Marie b
5/31/1918
md.
Alfred Wallace Emptage
Ancestry.com –
Ancestry.com –
(Edith) Marie Zneimer (5/31/1918
Ancestry.com
–
7/2002: See http://home.earthlink.net/~talvacchio/d0000/g0000140.html for record on Edith Marie. She went to
10/2002: Ancestry.com has a listing from
From www.ellisislandrecords.org:
There is a record for
Benjamin Zneimer, age 28 arriving June 03, 1920 as a
1930 Federal Census,
Benjamin G, age 35, born in
Mabel G,
age 35, born in NJ; both parents in NY.
Edith
M, age 11
Benjamin
& Mabel ages 22 & 20 when married (this doesn’t quite add up)
Cannot read street name -
<something> Avenue; they are the only family listed on the street.
1920 Federal Census,
Benjamin, age 36, arrived in 1900 –
manager at a Button Factory – parentage matches 1930
Mabel, age 24, parentage matches 1930
census
Marie, age 1 ˝
The age for Benjamin seems off by 10
years, but the Button Factory is right!
3/2006:
ancestry.com lists a WWI draft card for Benjiman George Zneimer
cannot view it;
Edward Anthony Zneimer [father Nicholas Zneimer] unmarried
No children
Lived in
Was living with mother Marie in 1930 census (see
record for parents).
He is listed in ancestry.com’s SSN index.
3/2006:
ancestry.com lists a WWI draft card for Edward Anthony Zneimer
cannot view it;
Edwin Thomas Yates and Berte Antoinette
Zneimer [father Nicholas Zneimer] md. 1923
Marie A b
1926
Edwin T.
Jr. b 2/2/1929 in NJ d. 4/28/2001 in
Marjorie b
Edwin Thomas Yates, Sr. (6/10/1887 – 12/1969 in NJ);
ssn: 086-22-4268,
1930 Federal Census,
Edwin T, age 42, born in MA, – High School
teacher
Berte A, age 32, born in
Marie A, age 4 ˝
Edwin T, age 1 ˝
Edwin & Berte were 35 & 25 when
married
Cannot read street name.
Wally Lachmann and [S]Zelma Zneimer [father Nicholas Zneimer] md.
Robert b
Divorced.
Jack Thorpe and [S]Zelma Zneimer [father Nicholas Zneimer] md. (Zelma’s 2nd marriage).
No Children.
Jack Thorpe adopted Robert as his son.
Found some SSN records for Zelma Thorpe, and one for Selma
Thorpe; see ancestry.com; also many for Thelma Thorpe.
Clifford Beebe and
Alice E. Zneimer [father Nicholas Zneimer]
md 1929
Carol b 1930
Clifford b
Russell
Wayne b
Live in
1930 Federal Census for Clifford S. Beebe,
NJ, Essex,
Clifford, age 26, md at age 25, clerk for
an Oil Company
Carol, age 3 months
on
--------------- Children of
Herman Zneimer ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tillie Zneimer [father Herman Zneimer]
Herman Dembow and Selma Zneimer [father Herman Zneimer] md 1922
David b
Charles b
Helen b
lived in
8/2006:
Erv Hertz tried to contact
May Zneimer [father Herman Zneimer]
Lillian Zneimer [father Herman Zneimer]
Sidney Zneimer [father Herman Zneimer] and Ethel xx md 1927
Joel b 1930 d
1930 Federal Census NY,
Ethel, wife, 24 (married at 21), b. in NY,
parents in
Joel, son, 3 mo
on
Gertrude Zneimer [father Herman Zneimer]
--------------- Children of
Edward Zneimer
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Leonard Zneimer [father Edward Zneimer] and Erna Zwilling md
Annette b
9/24/1939 in
Edward Joseph b
He had a school on the
He is in the Who’s Who in the East, 1974-1975 &
1975-1976.
Leonard’s wife Erna Zneimer,
(1/30/1914-3/1985) of
10/2002 – listing of Florida
Deaths 1980-89 on ancestry.com puts Erna’s dates as 1/30/1912 – 3/26/1985; died
in Palm Beach, FL.
Additional information
removed to a non-public file.
Stephen Zneimer [father Edward Zneimer] and
Richard b
8/31/1944 d 10/1996
Carole b
d
Stephen is in Who’s Who in the East, 1986-1987 &
Who’s Who Finance 1974-1990 (multiple listings).
Richard Zneimer,
(8/31/1944-10/1996) of
Additional information
removed to a non-public file.
------------ Children of
Yetta Zneimer
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Irving Rosenstein [mother Yetta
Zneimer]
Samuel Rosenstein [mother Yetta
Zneimer]
Joseph Rosenstein [mother Yetta
Zneimer]
Bernard Rosenstein [mother Yetta Zneimer]
All
other information removed to a non-public file
------------ Children of Fannie Zneimer
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Lillian Sable [mother Fannie Zneimer] md
All other information removed to a non-public file
Selma Sable [mother Fannie Zneimer] md
All other information removed to a non-public file
--------- end Grandchildren of Samuel Zneimer
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------------ Grandchildren of Hirsch Zneimer
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------------ Grandchildren of David Zneimer
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------------ Grandchildren of Schmerl Zneimer
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Boris Zneimer [father David Zneimer] and
Karmii b 1924 d 1943
Eleonora b 1926
After 1917 Revolution, Boris (with Moisey and
Bertha) move to
Karmii died in 1943 as a soldier in the Red Army.
Eleonora emailed in 2005 from
Moisey Zneimer [father David Zneimer] and
Lev b d 1941
Lev died in 1941 as a soldier in the Red Army
fighting near
Bertha Zneimer [father
David Zneimer] unmarried
Bertha taught languages in
******************
uksz xx and Sarah Zneimer [father Benjamin Zneimer] md
Married
& moved to US. Husband died early;
returned to UK. Still alive in
1994-1995, had a 100th birthday party reported by Ivor Zneimer.
No
children
Nathan Zneimer [father Benjamin Zneimer] and
Died
aged 19 in Africa.
Alf Zneimer [father Benjamin Zneimer] and
Reported
to have died 12 years prior to 1994-1995 aged 63 (math doesn’t agree). Married out of Jewish faith, had one daughter
Sylvia.
uksz2 Solomon Zneimer [father Benjamin Zneimer] and Rebecca Steinberg md
Matthew J b 1926 Islington
Harold b 1934 London
Ivor b 1936
from
Ivor Zneimer: Solomon b 6/7/1897 – d
1952, age 52.
from ancestry.com
9/2006: Rebecca
Zneimer, born 4/15/1900 died 7/1984 in Brent
Matt and
Harold changed last names to Jackson.
10/2008, from Betty Linda Shiel, on behalf of Zneimer relation Geoff
Rubins:
In 1924, 27
year old Solly (Solomon) married Rebecca Steinberg.
ukjz Jack Zneimer [father Benjamin Zneimer] and Florence M Rogerson
John b 1923 Holborn
Anne b 192?
William David b 1926 Lambeth d 2002
John
and Anne were at Sarah Z’s 100th birthday party (as per Ivor). [William] David is in Cyprus.
Joseph Zneimer [father Benjamin Zneimer] and
Died
1993 aged 19, as per Ivor Z. Lived in
Brighton; married with no children.
xx and Jessica Zneimer [father Benjamin Zneimer] md
Abraham Zneimer [father Benjamin Zneimer] and
3/22/2004: Found at http://webfamily.org.uk/Zneimer: Margaret Josephine A. Zneimer (1914 – 1996)
from ancestry.com
9/2006: Margaret Josephine A Zneimer, born 7/16/1914 died 2/1996 in
Havering
------------ Grandchildren of Izor Hertz
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xx xx and Beatrice Hertz [father Simon Hertz] md
Stanley Hertz [father Simon Hertz] and
Melvin Hertz [father Simon Hertz] and
Edward Hertz [father Simon Hertz] and
Fredel Hertz [father Simon Hertz] and
Saul Hertz [father Harry Hertz] and
Joseph Hertz [father Harry Hertz] and
xx and Frieda [father Harry Hertz] md
Lloyd Hertz [father Harry Hertz] and Barbara Banks md
Laurie
Danny
xx xx and Leah Hertz [father David Hertz] md
Myron Hertz [father David Hertz] and xx md
Paul Hertz [father Aaron Hertz] and
xx and Helen Hertz [father Aaron Hertz] md
Marcus Hertz [father Aaron Hertz] and
xx and Anna Grace Hertz [father Aaron Hertz] md
Erwin (Erv) Hertz [father Aaron Hertz] and xx md
Fred Hertz [father Abraham Hertz] and xx md
Richard Hertz [father Abraham Hertz] and xx md
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Children of Samuel Leavy Zneimer
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Sidney Zneimer [father Samuel L Zneimer] and xx md
1930 Federal Census Chicago, Cook Co, Ill, district 1439, 40th
Ward
Sidney Zneimer,
age 23, single, born in NY, parents in
Marcher, mother,
age 50, widowed, born in
7/2005:
Not sure if this is the right Sidney:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Zneimer&GRid=7764352&pt=Sidney%20Zneimer
Sidney Zneimer b. 2/6/1907 d.
5/23/1978, buried
8/2006: Erv Hertz met him in
xx and Minnie Zneimer [father Samuel L Zneimer] md
8/2006: Erv Hertz met her in
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Znaimer
Are we related to the Znaimers? Here is a link to Moses Znaimer
Generation 4
Families (great-great):
------------ Children of Samuel Zneimer ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Nicholas (x-Morris) Zneimer [father Samuel
Zneimer]
and Marie Williams md
Nicholas Jr. b
2/17/1891 in
Benjamin George b 1894 in
Edward Anthony b 10/30/1896 in
Berte Antoinette b 11/21/1897 In
ssn:
139-54-6294
Zelma/Selma b
1/1900? in
Joseph William b 6/17/1902 d 2/18/1994 in
ssn: 125-12-7659
Alice E. b
5/17/1907 d
10/4/2001 in NJ ssn: 138-30-4255
Nicholas married Marie when he was 34 and she 17, by legend in St.
Petersburg Cathedral (Selma Zneimer’s book says they were married in
Nicholas built a button factory in
Marie’s Russian name is Maria Vasiliava. Mom has many memories of her. Maria would never tell her about ‘the old
country’.
From www.ellisislandrecords.org:
Nicholas arrived at
1930 Federal Census,
Marie W. Zneimer, age 58, born in
Edward A., age 34,
occupation Engineer for Telephone Co., born in
both came to US in 1900, Marie was 17 when
first married.
living on 11th street.
1920 Federal Census – cannot find a record.
1910 Federal Census – in Newark, NJ (Essex Co) – 11-WD, page 214A * very hard to read the image*
Nicholas Zneimer, age 52, button factory –
all other info illegible.
Mary?, wife, age 38
Nicholas, son, 19, shoe factory
Benjamin, son, 17
Edward, son, 14
Bertha, dau, 13
Selma, dau, 10
Joseph, son, 7
Alice, dau, 2
1900 Federal Census – probably won’t be here yet (arrived July, 1900).
Herman Zneimer [father Samuel Zneimer] and Minna Mahler md. 3/1/1896 in Manhattan, NY
Ottilie (Tillie) b 12/20/1896 in NYC
Selma b 11/6/1898 in NYC d after 1944
May b 4/1900, in NY
Lillian b abt 1904
Sidney b abt 1908
Gertrude b abt 1910
Herman emigrated to US in 1890 (no record at Ellis island).
Sidney Zneimer (2/6/1907-5/1978) of Germantown, TN; ssn: 054-05-3548 (issued in NY) – Herman’s son or
Samuel’s son (see below)?
Selma’s birth record found on Ancestry.com; certificate number 43712
Also, birth record for <female> Zneumer, 12/20/1896, cert #
54554. Based on this, I set Tillie’s
date.
1930 Federal Census ?
1920 Federal Census (p 4A) Jan 14, 1920 Manhattan, NY, ward 15AD;
enumeration district 1099; roll T625_1214.
Herman, 56; arrived 1888, citizen 1891, clerk
grocery store – born in Russia
Minnie, 56; arrived 1893, citizen 1896, no
occupation
Selma, 21; Bookkeeper grocery
Mildred, 19; Stenographer
Lillian, 16
Sidney, 12
Gertrude, 10
Selma Sable, Niece, age 10
East 93rd Street.
Note this niece, a Sable, corroborates the LDS site’s info which shows
Herman’s sister Fannie marrying a Sable in 1905.
1910 Federal Census Manhattan, NY – 12-WD, page 105A
Herman, age 45, md 14 yrs, arrived 1896?;
Russia-Yiddish occ: merchant – delicatessen?
Minnie, 40, md 14 yrs, borne 6 children, 6
living; Russia-Yiddish; arrived 189?
Tillie, 13
Selma, 11
May, 10
Lillian, dau, 6
Sidney, son, 3
Gertrude, dau, 6 months
Freda ??, cousin
Henrietta Mahler, mother-in-law, age 63
1900 Federal Census, New York Co, NY, ED 929, page 20A – 2nd
avenue.
Herman Zneimer, b Sept 1864, age 36, md 5 yrs, born in Russia; immigrated 1891 (9
yrs)
Minny, b Mch 1868, age 32, md 5 yrs, borne 3
children, 3 living, born in Russia; immigrated 1893 (7 yrs)
Tilly, b Dec 1896, 3
Selma, b Nov 1897, 2
May, b Apr 1900, 1 mo
Henry Pearlman, boarder, 40 yrs old, from
Russia, immigrated 1883 (17 yrs)
There are some other Pearlmans on the same
page (from Russia): someone & Aaron
(brother), Ruby (brother) and Fanny (sister).
Immigrated 1898-1899.
Taken June 9, 1900.
7/2004: at the LDS site, Herman Zneimer, son of
Samuel Zneimer & Chease Perlman.
Married Minnie Mahler on 3/1/1896 in Manhattan, NY.
Minnie Mahler dau. of Julius Mahler and Jitte Hirschfeld; born in
Russia.
12/2007: NY Times online archive
lists Herman Zneimer as the debtor in a judgment filed by E H Sayre in
Manhattan; amount was 146.99; article date was Nov. 24, 1917.
Edward Zneimer [father Samuel Zneimer] and Gertrude Segale? md
Leonard b 12/31/1914 d 9/1975 ssn: 086-10-2889
Stephen b
6/10/1917 d 11/9/1995 in
Edward emigrated to US in 1891 (no record at Ellis island).
Edward’s wife - Gertrude Zneimer (7/27/1885-12/1977) of Rhinebeck, NY;
ssn: 085-09-9917 – no, she just died
there.
1930 Federal Census NY/Manhattan, district 1071, Broadway (indexed as ‘zeimer’)
Gussie Zneimer, 38, head, widow, born in NY,
parents Russia, saleslady, buttons
Leonard, son, 15, born in NY, father Germany,
mother NY
Samuel, son, 12, born in NY, same as above
1920 Federal Census NY/Bronx/Bronx; roll t625_1136; page 7A, ED244;
cannot read Avenue
Eduard, age 48, Russia, 1905, cannot read
occupation
Gussie, age 33, New York, wife
Leonard, age 5, son
Samuel, age 2 ˝, son
Lillyan Sable, niece, 13
This matches reasonably well – at least the sons’ ages, if not
names. So I set Edward’s birth year down
below. So I should look in the Ellis
Island records for 1905 Zneimers.
Lillian Sable is sister to Selma, who is living with Herman Zneimer in
1920.
1910 Federal Census …
Leopold Zneimer [father Samuel Zneimer] and xx md
Apparently Leopold remained in Europe.
Harry Rosenstein and Yetta Zneimer [father Samuel Zneimer] md
Irving b
Samuel b
Joseph b
Bernard b
all other information removed to a non-public file.
Jacob
(Jack) Sable and Fannie Zneimer [father Samuel Zneimer]
md 8/20/1905 in
Lillian (Silga) b 1907
Selma b 1910
I have the LDS site showing Fannie Zneimer, dau. of Samuel Zneimer and
Chesse Perlman, married to Jacob L. Sable on 8/20/1905 in Manhattan, NY. Jacob L. Sable son of Solomon Sable and
Rebecka Annapole.
Note – in 1920, Selma Sable (niece) is living with Fannie’s brother
Herman in Manhattan.
Note – in 1920, Lillian Sable (niece) is living with Fannie’s brother
Edward in the Bronx.
1910 Federal Census, NY, Manhattan, 12th Ward (5th
Avenue)
Jacob Sable, 40, md 4 yrs, immigrated 1904,
Russia, machinist for Railroad
Fannie, wife, 34, borne 2 children, 2 living,
immigrated 1896, Russia
Lillian, dau, 3
Selma, dau, 9 months
** move this record below **
xx and Minnie Zneimer [father Samuel Zneimer] md. ** father is Schmerl, not Samuel **
Lived in Baltimore.
** need to look her up in 1910, 1920 & 1930 census **
From www.ellisislandrecords.org:
I also found a record for Minie Znaimer (F), age 24, arriving May 03,
1903 from Southampton, UK on the ship New York.
Ethnicity is “Russia, Hebrew”.
Would this be Nicholas’ sister?
Yes! See record below for their
father, Samuel. Look at the .gif of Minie’s
immigration record, which refers to address/relative. Here she references ‘cousin H Zneimer’ at
2229 2nd Avenue. Except that
Herman would be her brother, not cousin
Only way the ‘cousin’ makes sense is if this Minie is a daughter of
Moses that I don’t know about. That
would make her Herman’s cousin. Or a
daughter of Schmerl?
10/2007 – yes! a daughter of Schmerl – brother to Benjamin, progenitor
of the UK Zneimers.
------------ Children of
Hirsch Zneimer ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------ Children of
David Zneimer
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------------ Children of
Schmerl Zneimer ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
David Zneimer [father Schmerl Zneimer] and Jenny Kahn/Cohn md
Boris/Behr b 1900 d 1960
Bertha b 1902 d 1970
Moisey/Moses b 1904 d 1962
Daughter b d 1941
Daughter b d 1941
Lived in Ventspils, Latvia as of 1907.
After 1917, David and two youngest daughters stay in Latvia; were
killed in 1941 during Nazi occupation (Shoa).
Boris, Bertha and Moisey move to Soviet Union.
8/2005: From JewishGen – found a
1905 and 1907 listing for ‘David Tsneymer’, son of Schmerl, living in
Ventspils, Latvia. This was a Courland
Voters List.
****************** UK Zneimers and Neimers
********************
[benz] Benjamin Zneimer [father schmerl?] and Frederika Berhmann md
Sarah b 9/1893 St George d after 1995
Nathan b 6/1895 St George d age 19 in africa
Alf ?? b 1896 d 1983 aged 63? doesn’t add up.
Schulem/Solomon b 9/1897 d 1952
Jack/Jacob b 8/3/1899 Mile End d 2/4/1993
Joseph b 6/1901 d 1993, aged 92
Jessica b 3/1904 Mile End d early in WWII
Abraham b 12/1905 Mile End d
Benjamin Zneimer born 1866 in Riga, Latvia. Died in the early 1940’s.
Frederika (Fanny) Behrmann born 1867.
Died in the 1930’s.
Benjamin & Frederika arrived in England from Riga in early
1890’s. She was from a wealthy family of
ship’s chandlers. He was in the Russian
army, and several classes below her.
Benjamin became a cobbler. His
brothers were Edouard and Bernhard; they emigrated to Africa. His sister Minnie went to New York.
Son Nat (above) died aged 19. He
went to Africa to be with his uncle Bernhard.
10/2008, from Betty Linda Shiel, on behalf of Zneimer relation Geoff
Rubins:
Benjamin & Frederika (Fanny) lived in Mile End, London (East End). Parents died 1933, 1943, buried in Edmonton
Federation cemetery in London (North).
Benjamin was a boot maker.
4/21/04: From Ancestry.com, England/Wales civil
registration index (1837-1983):
Sarah Zineimer, born 9/1893 in London/Surrey (St George in the
East)
Nathan Zneimer, born 6/1895 in London/Surrey (St George in the
East)
Schulem Zneimer, born 9/1897 in London/Surrey (St George in the East)
Joseph Zinamer, born 6/1901 in London/Middlesex (Bethnal Green)
Jessie Zinamer, born 3/1904 in London/Middlesex (Mile End Old
Town)
Abraham Zneimer, born 12/1905 in London/Middlesex (Mile End Old
Town)
Charles Neimer, died Dec, 1874 age 45. in London/Middlesex
(Hampstead)
9/2004: From ancestry.com, 1901 England Census:
Benjamin Znaimer, 35, born Russia, living in London
Fanny Znaimer, 34, born in Russia
Sarah Znaimer, 9
Nathan Znaimer, 7
Solly Znaimer, 5
Jack Znaimer, 3
Joseph Znaimer, 5 weeks
--------------------------- Children of Isor Hertz & Frieda
Zneimer -----------------------------------------------------------------
Simon Hertz [mother Frieda Zneimer] and Jennie Fritchell md
Beatrice (BD) b 1905 d 1986
Stanley B. b 1907 d 1955
Melvin Arthur b 1909 d 1972
Edward E. b 1912 d 1997
Fredel / Fritzie b 1923 d 1990
1930 Census, St. Paul (Ramsey) MN.
Simon, 63, Night Watchman at
Department Store
Jennie, 50
Beatrice, 24
Stanley B, 22, Salesman
Edward E, 17
Fredel (dau), 7
2/2006: Much help from Allen
Garon at http://www.garon.us/Simon%20Hertz.html
Louis Hertz [mother Frieda Zneimer] and Bessie Katz md
No children
1930 Census, St. Paul (Ramsey) MN.
Louis, 60
Bessie, 57
Note: Louis & Harry are on
the same census page.
1920 Census, St. Paul (Ramsey) MN.
Louis, 51, imm. 1896
Bessie, 47
Harry Hertz [mother Frieda Zneimer] and Ida Cohn md
Saul b 1914 d 1980s
Joseph b 1916 d
Frieda b 1919 d 1994
Lloyd b 1920 d 1994 or 1995
Ida died about 1976.
1930 Census, St. Paul (Ramsey) MN.
Harry, 56
Ida, 44
Saul, 15
Joseph, 13
F (dau), 10
Lloyd, 9
Note: Louis & Harry are on
the same census page.
David Hertz [mother Frieda Zneimer] and Delia Silverstein md
Leah V. b 1909
Myron J. b 1912
1930 Census, St. Paul (Ramsey) MN.
David T. Hertz, 54, Traveling Salesman, imm. 1890
Delia, 45
Leah V, 21
Myron J, 18
1920 Census, St. Paul (Ramsey) MN.
David Hertz, 44,
Delia, 35
Leah, 10
Myron, 8
1910 Census, St. Paul (Ramsey) MN.
David Hertz, 33, md 5 years, born in Russia, as were parents; proprietor
of <something>
immigrated 1874?
Delia, 25, born in MN, but parents from Russia
Leah, dau, 1 ˝?
Nathan Silver, father-in-law?, 78, immigrated 1871?
2 servants
The adjacent record is for Alexander & Edith Silver. I’m guessing that is Delia’s brother.
Aaron Hertz [mother Frieda Zneimer] and Esther Rosenblum md / divorced
Paul
Helen Ruth
(1st marriage)
Aaron Hertz [mother Frieda Zneimer] and Sarah Feinstein md
Marcus b 1922
Anna Grace b
Erwin b
(2nd marriage)
Abraham Hertz [mother Frieda Zneimer] and Nadine Rosenberg md
Fred b
Richard C. b
------------ end Children of Isor Hertz ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------ Children of
Moses Zneimer
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Samuel Leavy Zneimer [father Moses Zneimer] and Rosalie Lublin md. 8/24/1905 in Manhattan, NY
Sidney b 1907 d
Minnie b 1910 d
1910 Federal Census Ramsey Co, MN (St. Paul), 8-WD, page 259B, indexed
under ‘S L Znaimer’
S. L. Zneimer, 30, md 5 years,
Russia-Yiddish, arrived 1902; can’t make out occupation
Rosalia, wife, 30, md 4 years, borne 2
children, 2 living, Russia-Yiddish
Sidney, son, 3
Bessie Lublin, sister-in-law, 27
Ben? Lublin, brother-in-law, 25
on Carroll Street? Why isn’t
Minnie listed?
1920 Federal census: Samuel L.
Zneimer & Rosalie in St. Paul, MN Roll T625_854; page 17A
Samuel L., age 40 – born in Latvia/Russia;
occupation Salesman? in Clothing industry
Roselie, age 40 – born in Latvia/Russia
Sidney, M, 13
Minnie, F, 10
both Samuel & Roselie arrived in
1902. Need to find records of this –
Ellis Island again?
Also found Minnesota
Naturalization record from 1/15/1999 for Zneimer, Samuel Leavy (Mrs. Rosalie)
reel 49, vol. 28; code 137 page 211.
Ramsey County.
Note mother (called Marcher) is living with son Sidney in 1930 census.
4/21/04: Found death record
(5/5/1929) for Samuel L. Zneimer, Ramsey, MN at ancestry.com.
Also, a baby boy
Zneimer, 10/1/1916 for Ramsey, MN.
7/2004: Corroboration found at
the LDS site (www.familysearch.org):
Samuel L. Zneimer, son of Moses Zneimer & Minnie Mundel. Married Rosalie Lublin 8/24/1905 in
Manhattan. Note that Samuel’s daughter
Minnie is named for her grandmother.
Rosalie Lublin daughter of Isaak Lublin and Jesse Mundel. She is born in Russia.
Note that Samuel & Rosalie’s mothers are both Mundels.
3/2006: ancestry.com lists
a WWI draft card for Samuel Leavy Zneimer
cannot view it; Ramsey, Minnesota.
Generation 5
(great-great-great):
Schmuel / Samuel Zneimer [father Eliahu Zneimer]
and Annette Perlman [father
Josef Perlmann] md 1855 in Mitau,
Morris /
Nicholas b 1855/1857
in
Herman b 9/1864 in
Edward b 1870or72 d 1923
Leopold b
d
Fannie b 1876 in
Henrietta / Yetta b 1880 d
1949
Minnie b 1881 d
3 children died young
Lived in Kuldiga, Latvia (as of 1871).
6/2001: I
found a note that the 1900 census shows Annette Zneimer living in New York
(confirmed 11/2004). 9/2001: yes, she immigrated to NYC (in 1898) and died
there (in 1910). 1930 Census for Edward
Zneimer says his father (Nicholas) was born in Germany.
9/2001: I
found a California Death index record as follows:
Myra Rubin (8/28/1875 – 9/8/1958) Born in another
country, died in San Francisco; father’s name Zneimer, mother’s name Perleman
12/2001: page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~inlake/hessdesc.txt
refers to Eileen Hess marrying a Zneimer.
7/2004: at the LDS site,
found record for Samuel Zneimer & Chesse Perlman, with son Herman and
daughter Fannie. Try this link: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/IGI/individual_record.asp?recid=100314419894
This has Fannie married to Jacob L. Sable, 8/20/1905 in Manhattan,
NY.
10/2004: set minnie’s birth year based on Ellis island records.
11/2004 – matched with Latvian record for Schmuel & Anette
Zneimer.
11/2004: ellisislandrecords
for ‘Zneirner’, arrived in July 22, 1898 on the Furst Bismark from Hamburg.
Annette
Zneirner, 54
Heinritte
Zneirner, 20
Miria
Zneirner, 19
Last place of
residence ‘Curland’. cj – this is in
Latvia.
They are
going to see ‘son and brother Herman’ at 2229 2nd Ave.
This is my
family! Although listed by Ellis Island
as ‘Zneirner’, it is clearly written Zneimer.
1900 Federal Census, New York (Manhattan), ED 929, page 17B listed
under ‘Annette Ineimer’
Annette Zneimer, head, b Dec 1841, age 58, born 10 children, 7
living, imm 1898 (2 yrs)
Edward, son, b Apr, 1870, age 30, imm 1893 (7 yrs); occ insurance
Fanny, dau, b July 1873, age 26, imm 1897 (3 yrs)
Yetta, dau, b June 1879, age 20, imm 1898 (2 yrs) ; occ dressmaker
Minnie, dau, b July 1881, age 18, imm 1898 (2 yrs); occ dressmaker
<all Zneimers born in Russia>
Harry Rosenstein, boarder, b Jan 1873, age 27, b in Russia; imm
1890 (10 yrs); occ tailor
Listed on 114th Street.
In adjacent household:
Louis Rosenstein, boarder, b Dec 1875, age 24, b in Germany; imm 1893 (7 yrs); occ tailor
* need to lookup Rosensteins in 1910 census.
Hirsch Zneimer [father Eliahu Zneimer] and Rebecka xx md
Lived in Kuldiga, Latvia (as of 1871).
David Zneimer [father Eliahu Zneimer] and md
Need info! - is this the
brother who went to UK? 10/2007
Apparently NO. It was Benjamin who went
to the UK.
Schmerl
Zneimer [father Eliahu
Zneimer] and md
David b d
1941
Benjamin b 1866 d
early 1940s ** this
relationship is only my guess **
Edouard
Bernhard
Minnie
Schmerl is living in Kuldiga, Latvia as
of 1855.
As per Eleonora Zneimer, Schmerl stayed
in Latvia.
See more family history under the notes
for Benjamin.
From JewishGen, found a record for Schmerl
Elias Znaimer on the ‘Jews without lawful permit’ list. Record is for the town of Kuldiga, July 9,
1855.
8/2005 – from JewishGen
10/2005 – UK Zneimers are descended from
Schmerl (as per Ivor Zneimer).
11/2007 siblings Edouard, Bernhard and
Minnie added as per letter from Ivor Zneimer dated 2/21/1995.
Moses Zneimer [father
Eliahu Zneimer] and Minnie Mundel md
Samuel Leavy b 1880 in
7/2004: at the LDS site, found
record for him!
This is Moses Zneimer & Minnie Mundel; son Samuel L. Zneimer – more
info under his record.
Isor Hertz
and Frieda Zneimer [father Eliahu
Zneimer] md.
Leah b d young; in Latvia
Label b d in horse riding accident, age 12/13 in Latvia
Simon b 1866 or 67 in
Louis b 1869 in Latvia d
1/20/1938 in Ramsey
Harry b 11/1871 or 73 in Kneeling
David T. b 7/1872 or 75 in Russia d
1945
Aaron A. b 10/1/1879 (or Aug) d
5/11/1955 in Ramsey
Abraham b 5/1881 d
1957
10/2005:
Made many contacts among living Hertz family members.
Alternate spellings for Freda: Freida, Frieda, Fraeda
Full name: Isor Naftali Hertz or Izor Naftoli Hertz
4/21/04 – found death record for Aaron
A. at ancestry.com (Minnesota Death Index).
Also in this index:
Baby
Boy Zneimer, died 10/1/1916 in Ramsey, MN.
Samuel
L. Zneimer, died 5/5/1929 in Ramsey, MN.
Frieda
Hertz (mother) died 10/22/1916 in Ramsey, MN.
Isau
H. Hertz (father???) died 8/28/1913 in Ramsey, MN.
Louis
Hertz died 1/20/1938 in Ramsey, MN
Harry
Hertz died 7/23/1938 in Ramsey, MN
Simon
Hertz died 12/19/1938 in Ramsey, MN
and
more! check it out
look
at census records for MN in 1900, 1910, 1920, 1930
4/21/04:
also, lots of MN Naturalization records for the Hertz family.
Lots of info in 1930 census – need to
build out records for children. Not so
much in 1920.
** Lookup in 1900 & 1910 census **
2/2006, from Allan Garon’s website http://www.garon.us/Izor%20Hertz.html
1900 Census data:
Izor Hertz, b Dec 1839, 60, md. 35
years; born in Russia, as were parents.
Imm. 1890. In US 10 yrs; Paddler
Frieda, b Mar 1840, 59, md. 35 years;
borne 12 children, 6 living, born in Russia, etc. Imm. 1890.
Harry, b Nov 1871, 28, single, born in
Russia; immigrated 1885; Merchant
David, b Jul 1873, 26, same as above;
imm. 1885; Merchant
Aaron, b Aug 1879, 20, saa; immigrated
1890; Sign Painter
Abraham, b May 1881, 19, saa; imm. 1890;
Law Student
finish this
10/2006, from www.castlegarden.org:
Simon Hertz, Laborer, 16, arrived
12/6/1887; origin
xx Williams and xx md
Marie b abt 1871/1872 d 1951
Anna b d
Marie’s parents died of Typhus early in her
life. Marie and Anna lived with an uncle
or aunt. An uncle was in the Czar’s army
(could be Russian General Aleksei Nikolaevich Kuropatkin (1848-1925)? She was educated in a convent in St.
Petersburg, Russia.
Generation 6 (great
x4):
Elias
/ Eliahu Zneimer [father Hirsch Zneimer] and Leeh xx md
Hirsch b 1827 d
Schmuel b
1830 d 1898
David b 1832 d
Schmerl b 1833 d
Moses b 1838 d
Frieda b Mar 1840 d 10/22/1916 in
Yankel b 1843 d
Hessel b 1845 d
names from Zneimer history book:
Hirsch b 1827 – md Rebecka
(see Latvia dbase entry below)
David b 1832
Schmerl b 1833
Moses b 1838
Jankel b 1843
Hessel b 1845
From
Eleonora Zneimer 7/2005:
Children
are Hirsch, David, Moses, Yankel, Hessel, Schmeul, Schmerl
Leeh
b 1804.
Also
try the Znojmo name ?
Check in Latvia, in the Riga area.
Yes.
Schmerl went to England – ancestor of the British Zneimers (need
to confirm this).
10/2006 from CastleGarden.org:
Elias Zneimser, Merchant, age 20, arrived 12/16/1890 from
cj – I wonder who this is?
a grandson of Elias & Leeh?
Josef
Perlmann and Sara Behr md
Henry b
Annette
or Chesse b 1838 or 1844 d 1910 in NYC
Josef b 1815, died in Kurland
Sara b 1820
Annette b Dec/1838 d May
22, 1910. md 1855
Generation 7 (great
x5):
Hirsch Zneimer and
xx md
Elias
/ Eliahu b 1786 d
1867 in
Elias b 1786 d 1867
Hirsh b about 1760
Follow this line back to Riga, Latvia.
This is as far back as we know. There is a town, Znaim, in
Czechoslovakia. In the 15th
century, the Zneim’s moved to the Duchy of Kurland (Baltics). Nicholas was born in this area. Since this area [of Latvia] switched between
German and Russian control, the census records may show one or the other as an
individual’s country of birth.
From the Courland Enlistment Registers 1845-1874 at the All Latvia
database
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/latvia/ :
Family Age
Number Surname Given Name Father (in year) Died Town Type Date Fond
38 123 ZNAIMER Anette Kuldiga Recruits Enlistment 1871 472
38 122 ZNAIMER Elias Hirsch 1867 Kuldiga Recruits Enlistment 1871 472
13 34 ZNAIMER Hirsch Elias 44-1871 Kuldiga Recruits Enlistment 1871 472
13 34 ZNAIMER Rebecka Kuldiga Recruits Enlistment 1871 472
38 123 ZNAIMER Schmuel Elias 41-1871 Kuldiga Recruits Enlistment 1871 472
A link to background on Kuldiga:
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Kuldiga/Goldingenindex.htm
Kuldiga history: http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Kuldiga/Kuldigahistory.htm
Perlmann
Josef
Behr
Sara
Generation 8 (great
x6):
??
Zneimer and xx md
Hirsch b 1760 d
..