Genealogy of Claire, Alex, Sam
& Genny Jamison updated July, 2006
The
* update all
Families represented
in this genealogy: France, Dubois, Elting,
Andrews
go to main genealogy page
Generation 1 Families (parents):
Removed to a
non-public file.
James Frederick Hall
and Warner [father Myron Warner] md
child
Generation 2 Families (grandparents):
Removed to a
non-public file.
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grandchildren of CL France
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Myron France Warner [father Charles Warner] and Jeanette McBride md
daughter md James Frederick Hall; one child
Philip Carlton Anderson and Norma Gene France [father Elting Devine France] md.
Sara Jean b 11/24/1950 d
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end grandchildren of CL France
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Burdette Elmore
Andrews [father Edwin Andrews] and JoAnn Watson
Kenneth Norman
Andrews [father Edwin Andrews] and Helen Jane Prochaska
other
spouse: Bertha Gertrude Coffman
(1/17/1920 in
other
spouse: Shirley Jane Neep
Morris Julian Coffman and Dorothy Jane
Andrews [father Ralph Andrews] md. 4/29/1937 in
Diane
Jeannine b 3/16/1939
Penny Lou b 7/29/1942
Morris
Coffman b 10/1/1913 in
Check
out info on Coffmans: http://www.wrhine.com/gen/list/coffmanlist.php
Also: http://www.longislandgenealogy.com/scudder/fam00088.htm
7/2005
– children born in
Bentley Leon Blunt and Beth Lorraine Andrews [father Ralph Andrews] md12/9/1938 in
Bentley
Leon Blunt b 8/7/1906.
Notes
from www.jjwillis39.addr.com/pafn84.htm:
JERRY
WAS
BETTY
IS A WRITER AND POET, WROTE FOR TV HAVE GUN WILL TRAVEL,GUNSMOKE ELEVENTH HOUR,
THE MILLIONAIRE.
Donald Wallace
Andrews [father Wallace Andrews] and Sylvia Gwyneth Reese md
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children of Herman Willard France
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******** note these families
skip a generation in the sequence **********
Marjorie Alice b. 12/4/1924 in
Emma Jean (Jeanne) b. 6/10/1930 in
William Wallace b. 5/30/1936 in
Generation 3 Families (great-grandparents):
William Henry Tremper and Ethel France [father Elting Dubois France] md
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children of CL France --------------------------------------------------------
Charles Warner and Helen Genave France [father CL France] md
Myron France Warner b 1913 d
2/2007: from http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cbjbar/descendancy.html
Myron France Warner md Jeannette McBride
Elizabeth McBride Warner md James Frederick Hall
son Richard Melville Hall, born 1965, aka “Moby” – the
entertainment artist, composer
Elting
DeVine France [father CL France]
and Elsie Marie Stack md.
Wilbur b
Norma Gene France b 4/25/1919 d
1920 Federal
Census Otoe Co,
Elting
Elsie, wife, age 25
Wilbur, son, age 4
Norma, dau, age 9 mo.
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Horatio Elting Beckwith [father John Beckwith] and Laura May Speece md
Edson Emerson b
Edith Marie b
Harry Elting b
Edwin Andrews [father George Andrews] and Netta Florence Corns md June, 1911
Burdette Elmore b 1915 d
Kenneth
Norman b 8/23/1917 d 2/13/1990 in Belmont (
Netta Florence Corns
(1/24/1889 – 3/17/1931 in
1920 Federal Census
NE/Otoe/Syracuse, ED#141
Edwin Andrews, 29, farmer,
born in NE, parents born in NY
Netta, wife, 29
Burdette, son, 5
Norman, son, 2
7/2006 info at http://www.longislandgenealogy.com/scudder/gp21.htm
Edwin
Andrews [father George Andrews] and Ellene Annetta Johnson md 9/8/1935 in
Ellene Annetta Johnson
(12/27/1915
Ralph George Andrews [father George Andrews] and Nina Blanche West md. 1/14/1915 in
Dorothy
Jane b 11/29/1915 d 9/18/1996 at
Beth
Lorraine b 3/12/1918 d
Nina West
(11/3/1892 or 93 in
1920 Federal
Census NE/Otoe/Syracuse, ED#141
Ralph
Andrews, 26, farmer. born in NE; parents
born in NY
Nina, wife,
24
Dorothy, dau,
4
Beth, dau, 1
1/2005: the link is http://www.jjwillis39.addr.com/pafg198.htm (7/2006 – page has changed, but site is still
up)
Wallace
Andrews [father George Andrews] and Mina Fern Powers md 8/4/1920 at
Kensington, Smith,
Donald Wallace b
From http://www.longislandgenealogy.com/scudder/gp91.htm as of 7/2006
Mina Fern
Powers (11/29/1897 in
Wallace &
Mina are buried in Mt Tamalpais Cemetery,
Milton France [father Oliver M France] and
Paul Milton b
1937 d 9/15/1960 buried
Bethel C France [father Oliver M France] and
**** note children of Herman Willard France are shown
in generation above *****
Generation 4 Families
(great-great):
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children of Oliver Divine France --------------------------------------------------------
Elting DuBois France [father Oliver France] and Mary Alida Boyd md 12/26/1883 in Middletown, NY.
Ethel Mary b
01/13/1886 in Middletown, NY d
Alice McNish b 09/20/1893 in
Middletown, NY d 06/11/1896 in
Middletown
Elting lived in
Alida Boyd France died Nov. 14, 1928. Katharine Van Orden Seybolt copied her obit
from the Time Herald; it is in the
Ethel married William H. Tremper.
Elting and Alida lived at 8 Houston Ave, Middletown,
NY as of her death in 1928.
1900 Federal Census, Orange/Middletown –
Elting
Alida, wife, 43, md 15 yrs, borne 2 children, 1
living.
Ethel, dau, b Jan 1886, 14, at school
1910 Federal Census
1920 Federal Census
1930 Federal Census
20100725 found here,
record #250
Bernice Olive France [father Oliver France]
unmarried
Clarence LeFevre France [father Oliver France] and Evagene Irene Andrews md 1883
Agnes Lefever b 9/27/1884 in
Mabel Diana b 10/25/1885 d 8/25/1932 in
Warren Andrews b 1/31/1887 d
2/25/1971 in
Helen Genave b 9/21/1888 d 1/26/1974 in
Leola Hannah b 2/6/1890 d 5/16/1967 in
Elting
DeVine b 3/14/1891 d 7/19/1961 in
Clarence Edwin b 1/20/1893 d 6/3/1974 in
Evagene Irene b 10/3/1894 d 9/3/1970 in
Charles Ross b 6/12/1896 d 1/25/1978 in
Bernice Olive b 11/30/1898 d
10/11/1982 in
Abbie Catherine b 1889 d
Myron George b
Ruth Elizabeth b
baby b 1902 d 1902
Wilbur b Jan, 1907 d 3/6/1907
16 children altogether! see http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2416921&id=I517766093
I think there is a lot on this family. C.L. France went to
Evagene: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=tcoulthart&id=I7956.
Evagene Andrews b 1863
d 1930. Evagene’s parents: Edwin
O. Andrews and Diana C. Weller.
Note she is sister to George Andrews below (who
marries Clarence’s sister Theresa).
6/2006: http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=geolarson2&id=I070831
7/2006: http://www.longislandgenealogy.com/scudder/gp66.htm - used as basis to enter the children.
1900 Federal Census, Otoe Co, NE,
Clarence L France, b Oct 1858, 41, md 17 yrs born in
NY; farmer (owner)
Evagene, wife, b 1863, 37, borne 11 children, 11
living, born in NY
Agnes L, dau, 15
Mable D, dau, 14
Warren A, son, 13
Hellen G, dau, 11
Leola H, dau, 10
Elting D, son, b Mar, 1891, 9
Clarence E Jr, son, b Jan, 1893, 7
Evagene I, dau, 5
Charles R, son, 4
Bennie O, dau, 2
Abbie C, dau, 9 mo.
1880 Federal Census Deleware/Otoe/Nebraska, p399A in
household of Amos Weller
Clarence
France, age 22, farm laborer, born in NY
1880 Federal Census Syracuse,
Clarance
in 1880 census North Branch/Otoe/Nebraska p370B is the
Andrews family (Edwin & Deanna) with daughter
Evagene,
age 17. note she & all siblings are born in NY.
Found a Clarence E. France in 1920 Fed. Census,
Harry Clifton and Abbey France [father
Oliver France] md
Grace b
Harry Clifton of
John Emerson Beckwith and Mariah Jane France [father
Oliver France] md
Horatio Elting b 2/24/1891 in
Maude b
Oliver b
John Emerson Beckwith b 5/30/1849 in
George Andrews and Theressa France [father
Oliver France] md. 2/27/1889
in Cicero, Onondaga, NY
Edwin France b
1/1/1891 in
Ralph George b 7/26/1894 in Syracuse, NE d
Jan, 1983 in Los Angeles, CA, bur. Forest Lawn cem, Glendale CA.
Wallace b
12/13/1897 in
George Andrews (4/7/1858 in Clay NY – 11/23/1900 in
More on Ralph & this line on Ancestry.com; see http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1529685&id=I0053
and
at http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jjwillis&id=I23
George Andrews b 4/7/1858 in
See http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=tcoulthart&id=I7951
So the question is:
are George & Evagene Andrews brother & sister? 12/2004:
yes.
Theresa France was a member of the Eastern Star and of
the Daughters of the American Revolution.
1/2005: http://www.longislandgenealogy.com/scudder/fam00002.htm
1900 Federal Census, Otoe Co NE,
George Andrews, b April 1858, 42, md 11 yrs, farmer
Theresa F, wife, b Aug 1869, 30, md 11 yrs, borne 3
children, 3 living
Edwin, son, b Jan 1891, 9
Ralph, son, b July 1894, 5
Wallace, son, b Dec 1897, 2
Bernice O France, sister-in-law, b Aug 1857, 42,
single
George & Theresa born in NY, all children born in
NE; Bernice born in NY.
12/5/2006:
Theressa marries again to E. E. Mickel of
Oliver M France [father Oliver France] and Cordelia xx md
Cordelia born 5/27/1878, died 1/28/1974, aged 95;
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end children of Oliver Divine France
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XX and Ellen Sinsabaugh [father Adam Sinsabaugh] md
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children of Andrew France
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Waldo France [father Andrew France] and xx md
Frank France [father Andrew France] and xx md
XX and Minnie France [father
Andrew France] md
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children of George Washington France Sr.
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George Washington France Jr. [father GW France Sr] and Gladys Starkey md.
Pauline b.
Gladys b. 3/20/1904, d.
1/22/1991.
Elting Aldrich France [father
GW France Sr]
and xx md.
There is a 1920 Federal Census listing for Elting A.
France, age 25, born in NY, living in
Herman Willard France [father GW France Sr]
and Clara Gladys Parker md.
Marjorie Alice b. 12/4/1924 in
Emma Jean (Jeanne) b. 6/10/1930 in
William Wallace b. 5/30/1936 in
Clara Gladys Parker b. 1901
in
According to Jeanne, Herman
could speak German, French, English, Spanish and Portugese. He worked as an Engineer for the United Fruit
Co. (on banana boats in
Generation
5 (great-great-great):
Philip LeFevre Van Orden [father
Abraham Van Orden] and Elizabeth H France [father Elting J France] md
9/14/1853 at
Sarah
LeFevre b 9/7/1854 in
Elting
Ann
Maria b 7/6/1858 d 6/18/1871 in New
Prospect cem.
Catherine
Dubois b 1/16/1861 d 12/31/1943 bur. in Wallkill
Valley cem.
Solomon
L. b 1/13/1864 d 11/24/1867 bur. in New
Prospect cem.
7/2006: full information on this family found at
genvo.htm in this directory.
This is the family where the
Van Orden and France family lines come together.
I am descended from Alice
Van Orden.
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children of Elting John France
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Oliver DeVine France [father Elting John France]
and Mary Agnes Crist md. 7/29/1854 in New
Elting
DuBois b 9/17/1854 in Brandt,
Ulster Co. d 1933 in
Bernice
Olive b 8/1858 in Pine Bush, NY d 1912 in
Clarence LeFevre b
10/25/1858 in NY d
9/8/1938 in
Abbey Catherine b
1861 bap 8/2/1861 at New Prospect Church d
Maria Jane b
2/3/1863 bap 7/31/1863 at
Theressa b
8/18/1869 in Pine Bush, NY d 1/2/1930
in
Oliver M b
1871 in Shawangunk d in
Mary Crist (2/28/1833 in
Pine Bush -4/1/1874 in Shawangunk), daughter of Milton
Crist(3/29/1802-2/13/1885) and Abigail Houston (b. 10/19/1803-). There is more on Ancestry.com
I have a note which says that Oliver and Mary are
buried in New Prospect! I’ll need to
look for them.
Note Oliver is also listed as living in his father
Elting’s household (1860 census). Maybe
there are two Olivers?
4/2003 – worked with father in the tannery / scythe
business until the shops burned, then went into farming. Member of New Prospect Duth Reformed Church.
Need to update family & children from http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2416921&id=I48
- 5/20/4 –
now http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2416921&id=I517765257
7/2004 LDS
has some New Prospect Christening & Marriage records on-line: 1832-1869 / 1832-1880:
marriage
for Oliver & Mary; christenings for Abbey & Maria.
6/2006: http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=geolarson2&id=I070829
1860 Census Orange/Crawford (p1041-July13, 1860)
Oliver D France, age 28,
Scythe Manufacturer
Mary A, age 27
Elting, 5
Bernice O, 4
Clarence L, 1
1870 Federal Census, Orange/Crawford, p338, Walden
post office
Oliver France, age 39,
Scythe Manufacturer
Mary A, 37, Keeping House
Burnice D, 13 (M), at school
Clarence L, 11, at school
Abbie C, 9, at school
Maria J, 7, at school
Theresa, 1
1880 Census Ulster/Shawangunk, p314A
Oliver D. France, 45, farmer
– widower
Mariah J. France, dau, 17 –
keeping house
Theresa, dau, 10 – at school
Oliver M., son, 8 – at
school
I found a 1920 Federal Census listing for Elting
12/23/03 – also in 1880 census for Orange/Crawford,
an Elting D. France (age 28 – or 25?) border in the household of Robert Watt?
Adam Sinsabaugh and Mariah France [father Elting John France] md 10/1/1861
Ellen b 1866 d
1870 Federal Census Orange/Goshen
Adam Sinsabaugh, 68, retired farmer
Mariah, 38, keeping house
Ellen, 4
Henry, 20?
Cornelia, 7 mo.
20100724 – Mariah/Marian is Adam’s 4th
wife (explains the difference in ages).
xx Williams and Emily France [father Elting John France] md
Andrew France [father Elting John France] and Lottie C. France
Waldo E b 1874 in
Frank D b 1876 in
Minnie A b 1878 in
1880 Federal Census, Mendocino,
Andrew, 40, farmer, born in
NY
Lottie C. 36, born in NY
Waldo E., 6, born in
Frank D., 4, born in
Minnie A, 2, born in CA
George Washington France, Sr. [father Elting J France] (1st marriage) and Catharine Josephine Aldrich md
See this interesting web page: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mmm3m&id=I18013 for info on George’s
multiple marriages.
George
Washington France, Sr. [father Elting J France] (2nd marriage) and Effie
Mariah Cammack md 9/18/1871 in
Divorced about 1880
Effie Cammack born 12/27/1853 in
see http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mmm3m&id=I18013 for children of this
marriage
George Washington France [father
Elting J France]
(3rd marriage) and Fannie Aldrich Reeves md. 1890 in
George Washington, Jr. b
2/25/1891 in
Elting Aldrich b 10/9/1894 in
Herman Willard b 4/6/1897 in
From Jeanne France:
Fannie b. 1859 in
1910 Federal Census, Orange/Goshen, District 15:
Fannie A Turner, 50, no
occupation
George W France, son, 19
Elting A France, son, 15
Herman W France, son, 13
location: Gordon?
1900 Federal Census, Orange/Goshen, ED#13; on
Grinnick? Street
Stephen Turner, 40, md 1 yr,
boarder, no occupation – all family is boarding; cannot make out owner of
boarding house.
Fannie A Turner, b July
1859, 41, md 1 yr, 3 children
George W, 9
Elting A, 5
Herman W, 3
6/2006:
http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2448544&id=I520356731
another marriage for GW France, Sr.
http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mmm3m&id=I18013 here too.
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end children of Elting John France
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Stephen Joy France [father William France] and Catharine Van Hovenburg md.
Euphemia b 11/22/1851 in Hurley, bap 6/6/1852 in Woodstock Reformed Dutch Church
Julia Catharine b 1854 in same d 1/1/1859 in Plattekill
see Hurley 1855 census.
from http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=gemini&id=I36317
by Lorraine Luke.
Catharine Van Hovenburg (1831-3/15/1856)
1880 Federal Census for
1860 Federal Census for Saugerties: Euthenia
So
where is Stephen?
2/2007: See http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/church/woodstockrdc.shtml
Generation 6 (great x4):
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children of John France -----------------------------------
Elting
John France [father John France] and
Catherine Du Bois [parents] md. 8/27/1828
Elizabeth
H b
6/15/1829 in Ulsterville, NY d
12/27/1908 in Pine Bush, bur. in Modena cem.
Oliver Divine b 7/29/1830 d 10/26/1888 bur.
In New Prospect cem.
Maria[h/n] Jane b 8/3/1833 d
Henry Dubois b 3/5/1836 d 9/22/1838
Emily B. b 4/22/1838 d 4/30/1883
Andrew Deyo b 10/14/1840 d 1/26/1893 in
Jonathan DuBois (or
Deyo) b 3/21/1843 d 6/20/1860 bur.
in New Prospect cem.
George Washington b 4/27/1845 in
Sarah Catherine (or
L) b 4/29/1848 d 5/5/1848
Elting
John France and Margaret Masten md 1850 in Shawangunk
Margaret born 1810.
*** update this record: http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2416921&id=I83 (6/2006 – this is now a dead link)
Elting John France is
related to the Du Bois family through his mother (an Elting), and now marries
back into the family. Ancestry.com note
says he is buried in
Got the siblings out of the
Van Orden family bible. Need to look
them all up on the internet. So far I’ve only found Elizabeth and George.
From Jeanne France,
Census data from 1855 NYS
Census: Elting is 54, Catherine is 47;
children: Mariah, 21; Emily, 17; Andrew,
14; Jonathan, 12; George, 10. Elting’s
occupation is Scythemaker; He is in the
2nd election district, Town of
Jeanne says another
researcher told her Elting married again, to a Margaret Martin in 1869. 9/21/00:
See internet http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~banks/gene/D0012/I1172.html
for record on 2nd marriage to Margaret Masten, about 1870. I found a number of Mastens in the baptismal
records of Shawangunk Reformed church.
4/2003: Note
that his second wife was Margaret Martin (b in Inwood, NJ), md. 3/17/1869.
See http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2416921&id=I517765292
7/2001: I found
Elting’s Scythe Manufactory shown on dad’s 1863 farm map of T of Crawford. It is shown on the Crawford side of the
Shawangunk Kill, off
11/2001 – found a note on ancestry.com that Elting
John is buried at Bruynswick. I guess
I’ll have to walk through again. At
least now I have a lead of someone to look for.
6/2005: found
graves for Jonathan & Oliver in
1830 Federal census (p238) Elting Frants, Shawangunk,
Ulster Co, NY – note name spelling! – need to look up.
Males
30-40 1 Elting
Females
<5 1
Females
20-30 1 Catharine
1840 Federal census (p 82) Elting France, Shawangunk,
males
5-10 1 Oliver Divine (9)
males
30-40 1 Elting
females
<5 1 Emily (2)
females
5-10 1 Maria
(7)
females
10-15 1
females
30-40 1 Catharine
1850 Federal census (p 325-august19,1850) Elting
Thance, Shawangunk, Ulster Co, NY – note name spelling! image 72/100
Elting, age 50, farmer, tanner, sythemaker - $7,000.
Catharine, age 47
Oliver, 19
Mariah Jane, 17
Emily B., 12
Andrew, 9
Jonathan, 7
George, 5 – says he was born in
3 others (non-family)
1860 Federal census (p 294-june20,1860) Elting France,
Shawangunk,
Elting France age 60, farmer, $3500 property, $1000
personal – note no mention of the scythe mfg.
Catharine, age 57
Oliver D, 26, farmer/laborer – so he’s listed twice!
Maria J, 22
Emily, 20
Andrew J, 19, farmer/laborer
Jonathan, 17, farmer/laborer
George, 14 (found on the next page)
1870 Federal census, Ulster/Shawangunk, p375
Elting
Margaret France, 30, Keeping House
Elting
cj: Elting must
have lived just on the
1850 census (p119-ancestry.com image 2) Reuben France,
Crawford,
1850: age 57, farmer; wife Sarah
age 50, child (F) age 17 – can’t read her name.
1850 census Henry France, Shawangunk, (p306) –
ancestry.com image #34 – he is a Tanner from Sullivan Co. age 41.
1830 census Henry France, Crawford,
Males 20-30: 1;
females <5: 1; females 20-30: 1
1860 census Ewing
1860 census George France, Shawangunk (p295)
20100725 from Google books online
for Pioneer Families of Orange County, New York by Martha Reamy, Bill Reamy.
George W. Jamison (p. 89) publisher of Pine Bush
Herald, md. Julia N. Crist; dau Hilda.
Catherine Du Bois (p. 49) d/o Henry md. Elting France
(his mother was d/o Peter Elting of New Paltz).
They reside in Ulster and had a dau. Marian Jane who
married Adam H. Sinsabaugh, as his 4th wife.
20100725 from Google books online for Cases argued
before the Supreme Court of NY, General Term, 3rd District, March,
1869
Elting
France and Oliver D. France vs. James McElhone.
Refers to a contract of April 16, 1853 for McElhone to sell
scythes
for them. The firm’s name is “E. France
& Son”.
xx
and Maria France [father John France] md
Need to find out more information on this family.
William (Wilhelmus) F. France [father John
France] and Mary Ann Joy md.
3/12/1822 in
Lucinda b
1/23/1822 in
William Peter b
9/30/1824 in same
Albert b
1/25/1826 in
Hiram b
1/19/1828 in same, bap 12/1/1829
Stephen Joy b
9/25/1829 in same, bap 12/1/1829 at Old Dutch Church at
Elizabeth Catharine b 5/21/1831 in same, bap 8/28/1831
Mary Ann Joy (3/10/1803 –
10/22/1887).
See Woodstock (NY) Reformed
Dutch Church for records. See Lorraine
Luke’s data on-line.
8/2003: I found
Hiram
1850 Federal Census for
1860 Federal Census for
Wilhelmus
Mary A, 53
Clarissa France, 16
Abram R Whittaker, 16
Benjamin
Bruyn France [father John France] and xx
Need to find out more information on this family.
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end children of John France -----------------------------------
Generation 7 (great x5):
John
France and Sarah [van] Elting [parents] md. 10/10/1794 in Reformed
Maria b. 9/15/1796? d
William
F. b. 11/10/1796? d 11/29/1867 in
John
Elting b. 4/21/1799, bap
11/17/1799 in Shawangunk Reformed d
11/17/1799
Elting John b. 6/20/1800 in Shawangunk, NY d 5/12/1872 bur.
Bruynswick Cemetery? (ancestry.com) Note
there is a record at the Shawangunk Reformed church for Elting child born
6/22/1800, baptized 11/17/1801, with parents John Frans and Sarah Elting
Benjamin
Bruyn b. 12/16/1803 d
From Van Orden web site.
Need to find out where John France
came from.
Also – where are they
buried?
7/2001: I found a note in the Van Orden bible as
follows: “The first
1800 Federal Census (p250)
John France in Ulster Co, NY
1810 Federal Census (p103)
John Frans in Ulster Co.
1820 Federal Census (p66)
Sarah France in Shawangunk Township, Ulster Co. – his widow? – couldn’t find in
page.
1800 Federal Census (p220)
Catharine
Research:
search for this Kenneth France from
substantiation:
http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=gemini&id=I43865
by Lorrain Luke.
4/2003 from Londa Andrews, on-line at ancestry.com:
John France is said to have manufactured the first nails made in this
country.
Household included one free white male over 16 yrs, 2 males under 16
yrs, 3 females
1800 Federal Population Schedule, Page: 250,
1/2005: Also
see http://www.jjwillis39.addr.com/pafg180.htm
for the record of John and Sarah; follow down into France and Andrews lines.
20100725 see http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=hoferer&id=I6002
to follow pedigree back through mother Sarah Elting
2/2007:
Interesting – perhaps a brother of John?
WILLIAM1 FRANCE was born September 16, 1754 in
York
ANNATJEN BRINK July 17, 1784 in Katsbaan/Saugerties,
daughter of CORNELIUS BRINK and ANNETJE WINNE. She was born April 25,
1765 in Kaatsban, Ulster CO.,
More About WILLIAM FRANCE:
Burial:
Notes for ANNATJEN BRINK:
Her baptismal sponsors were Petrus and Anntie Brink.
Resource : Gravestone Inscriptions of Ulster County lists her as Hannah
who
died March 6, 1852 at age 86. The UCGS Brink Chart shows her death as May
5,
1843. ANNATJEN BRINK: Baptism: Katsbaan/Saugerties,
Burial:
Children of WILLIAM FRANCE and ANNATJEN BRINK are:
i.JACOBUS2
Baptism: May 15, 1785, Katsbaan/Saugerties, Ulster County, NY
ii.ANTJE FRANCE, b. 1787, Katsbaan/Saugerties, Ulster County, NY; m.
JACOB HOMMEL, May 06, 1815, Katsbaan/Saugerties, Ulster County, NY.
Baptism: April 28, 1787, Katsbaan/Saugerties,
iii.JANNETJE
Baptism:
iv.CORNELIA
She married Jacob Dewitt of Saugerties on Dec. 31, 1812 (RDC
Katsbaan-Worden).
Baptism: September 03, 1791, Katsbaan/Saugerties,
v.FREDERICK
County
Baptism: July 20, 1794, Katsbaan/Saugerties,
vi.MARIA
County
She married Nicholas Dick of Saugerties on Sept. 3, 1814 in Katsbaan
(Worden).
Baptism: February 19, 1797, Katsbaan/Saugerties, Ulster County, NY
vii.PETRUS FRANCE, b. 1799, Katsbaan/Saugerties, Ulster County, NY; d.
Katsbaan/Saugerties, Ulster County, NY. Baptism: June 16, 1799,
Katsbaan/Saugerties,
viii.WILHELMUS
County
He likely married Rachel Roosa on April 21, 1824.
Baptism: May 03, 1801, Katsbaan/Saugerties,
ix.CATHARINA
Baptism: October 02, 1803, Katsbaan/Saugerties,
x.PETER BRINK
Baptism:
Generation 8 (great x6):
xx
John b. 1758 in
Need to track back this line. I would imagine it leads to New Paltz /
4/2003 – new info courtesy Londa Andrews,
on-line at ancestry.com
1790 – in
1800 – in Ulster Co. census (where) page 250.
8/2004: from LDS site: Johannes Franse b 7/27/1743 to Frans Franse
and Elisabet Bickers in Reformed Dutch Church, NY, NY.
Petrus (Peter) [van] Elting [parents] and Elizabeth De Puy [parents]
md. 2/18/1756 in
Sarah b 4/16/1760 in
7/2006:
Details for this family found at genvo.htm in this
directory.
All other non-France details found at
genvo.htm as well.
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