Genealogy of Claire, Alex, Sam & Genny Jamison                                        October, 2008

The Zneimer side                                                                                            by Chris Jamison

 

This file combines both a lineal descent chart and an ancestry chart simultaneously.  It is broken up by generations, with siblings listed adjacently where possible.  Use the hyperlinks to travel up or down generations.  Direct ancestors are listed in italicized fonts.

 

Families:  Zneimer, Rosenstein, Yates, Hertz, Perlmann, Behr

 

This Genealogy lists younger generations near the top, and the oldest known generations at the bottom.  Frequently I use hyperlinks to link children to their parents.  This genealogy is best viewed on-line, rather than in print, and in an application that supports the hyperlinks.

 

See also http://groups.yahoo.com/group/zneimer for Zneimer family genealogy.

 

go to main genealogy page

 

Generation 1 Families (parents):

Removed to a non-public file.

 

Generation 2 Families (grandparents):

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Generation 3 Families (great-grandparents):

 

---------  Grand Children of Samuel Zneimer -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

---------  Children of Nicholas Zneimer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Joseph William Zneimer [father Nicholas Zneimer] and Helen Frances Ure [parents] md. 12/11/1927

            Marilyn                                       b 7/8/1929    d 6/4/2001 in Fearington Village, NC

                        Try here for her obit:  http://www.townonline.com/metro/wellesley/obit/

            Anita Ellen      b

 

Joseph Zneimer graduated from St. John’s Military Academy (Delafield, Wisconsin) in 1921.  St. John’s is now known as St. John’s Northwestern Military Academy.

 

Joseph was a banker, before joining the Episcopal Priesthood.  He and Helen lived in NYC, then Minnesota for some time, then in New York (Buffalo, then Syracuse).  They had a summer home in the Thousand Islands.  I remember going out in a small boat into the St. Lawrence River as a young boy.  We saw a huge oil tanker and I got very scared, so much so that they had to row me back to shore.  I still don’t like big water.  We visited a few times while they lived in Syracuse, and I stopped in once on a return trip from working in Rochester, NY (Kodak).

 

The Reverend Canon Joseph William Zneimer’s obituary.

 

Joe was a banker in New York City.  He took a promotion and moved to Minneapolis, MN.  While there, he became a deacon, then priest (1943).  They moved to Little Falls, MN (March, 1941 – June 1945) before returning to New York (Buffalo).

 

1930 Federal Census, listed under “Joseph W. Znermer”; Irvington Township, Essex Co, NJ

Joseph W., age 28 (married at 23); born in NJ, father NY, mother Switzerland; occupation clerk in Insurance

Helen F., age 25 (married at 20); born in NJ, father NY, mother NJ; no occupation

Marlin(!) J., age 9 mo.

 

 

Nicholas Zneimer Jr.  [father Nicholas Zneimer] and Marian xx  md 1920

John M (Jack)              b 1925

 

Lived in IL.  Mom gave me a copy of his certificate of birth, completed in 1942.

Nicholas’s wife:  Marion Zneimer (7/1/1891-8/1973) of Oak Forest, IL; ssn:  329-20-2289

 

6/2004:  Marian Zneimer, dau. of Michael Jolkowski / Actaboski & Anna Mase? –ancestry.com msg board.

 

Military Record:  Nicolas Zneimer, Jr, Corporal 35th infantry, Company I, Camp Travis, TX – World War I.

 

1930 Federal Census, “Nicolas Zneimer”, Illinois, Cook Co, Midlothian, district 2060

                Nicolas, age 39, born in Argentina (fath Germ, moth Russ), md age 29, immigrated 1898,

                                Technical Engineer, Hotel Supply

                Marian, 35, md age 25, born Ill, parents Germany, proprietor Real Estate Co.

                John M., 4 & 10 months

South Drumball? Avenue.

 

1920 Federal Census …

 

3/2006:  ancestry.com lists a WWI draft card for Nicolas Zneimer Jr.

cannot view it; Cook, Illinois.

 

Also, lookup in 1930 census:  “John Zananer” born 1986, in Cook, ILL?

 

 

 

Benjamin George Zneimer [father Nicholas Zneimer] and Mabel Galloway md.

(Edith) Marie              b 5/31/1918 Newark, NJ         d. 2/6/1963 Jacksonville, FL

            md. Alfred Wallace Emptage

 

Ancestry.com – Florida Death of Benjamin G. Zneimer, April 1956.

Ancestry.com – (Edith) Marie Zneimer (5/31/1918 Newark, NJ – 2/6/1963 Jacksonville, FL) married to Alfred Wallace Emptage 5/21/1938 in East Orange, NJ – very interesting! note seems to indicate that her father was Benjamin and mother was Mabel Galloway.  So we have some progress.  No note on children.

Ancestry.com – Florida Death of Edith Marie Emptage, February 1963.

7/2002:  See http://home.earthlink.net/~talvacchio/d0000/g0000140.html for record on Edith Marie.  She went to Montclair State University (like Alice Zneimer Beebe).  Need to contact the owner of this database.

10/2002:  Ancestry.com has a listing from Florida deaths for 1956; updated his death date accordingly

 

From www.ellisislandrecords.org:

There is a record for Benjamin Zneimer, age 28 arriving June 03, 1920 as a US Citizen from Kingston, Jamaica on the ship Zacapa.  He is listed as married.  This must be Nicholas’ son Benjamin.  I wonder what he was doing in Jamaica.

 

1930 Federal Census, West Caldwell township, Essex Co, NJ

Benjamin G, age 35, born in Argentina, father in Germany, mother in Russia; occupation:  salesman in advertising.  came to US in 1903.

Mabel G, age 35, born in NJ; both parents in NY.

Edith M, age 11

Benjamin & Mabel ages 22 & 20 when married (this doesn’t quite add up)

Cannot read street name - <something> Avenue; they are the only family listed on the street.

 

1920 Federal Census, East Orange township, Essex Co., NJ  - listed under “Benjamin Znermer”

Benjamin, age 36, arrived in 1900 – manager at a Button Factory – parentage matches 1930

Mabel, age 24, parentage matches 1930 census

Marie, age 1 ½

The age for Benjamin seems off by 10 years, but the Button Factory is right!

 

3/2006:  ancestry.com lists a WWI draft card for Benjiman George Zneimer

cannot view it; Essex, New Jersey.

 

 

 

Edward Anthony Zneimer [father Nicholas Zneimer] unmarried

No children

 

Lived in Newark, NJ. 

Was living with mother Marie in 1930 census (see record for parents).

He is listed in ancestry.com’s SSN index.

 

3/2006:  ancestry.com lists a WWI draft card for Edward Anthony Zneimer

cannot view it; Essex, New Jersey.

 

 

Edwin Thomas Yates and Berte Antoinette Zneimer [father Nicholas Zneimer] md. 1923

Marie A           b 1926

Edwin T. Jr.    b 2/2/1929 in NJ          d. 4/28/2001 in Princeton, NJ  ssn: 100-22-5341

Marjorie           b

 

Edwin Thomas Yates, Sr. (6/10/1887 – 12/1969 in NJ); ssn: 086-22-4268, Madison, NJ

 

1930 Federal Census, Verona township, Essex Co, NJ, district 616

Edwin T, age 42, born in MA,  – High School  teacher

Berte A, age 32, born in Argentina, father Russia, mother Russia, came in 1900.

Marie A, age 4 ½

Edwin T, age 1 ½

Edwin & Berte were 35 & 25 when married

Cannot read street name.

 

 

Wally Lachmann and [S]Zelma Zneimer [father Nicholas Zneimer] md.

Robert             b

 

Divorced.

 

Jack Thorpe and [S]Zelma Zneimer [father Nicholas Zneimer] md. (Zelma’s 2nd marriage).

No Children.

 

Jack Thorpe adopted Robert as his son.

Found some SSN records for Zelma Thorpe, and one for Selma Thorpe; see ancestry.com; also many for Thelma Thorpe.

 

 

 

Clifford Beebe and Alice E. Zneimer [father Nicholas Zneimer] md 1929

Carol                           b 1930

Clifford                       b

Russell Wayne            b

 

Live in Rutherford, NJ.  4 other children died in infancy. 

Alice’s SSN entry is ‘Alice E. Beebe’, Lake Hopatcong, NJ

Alice attended Montclair (NJ) State University, class of 1929.

 

1930 Federal Census for Clifford S. Beebe, NJ, Essex, Bloomfield Township, district 352

Clifford, age 26, md at age 25, clerk for an Oil Company

Alice, age 22, md at age 22, born in NJ; father in Germany, mother in Russia

Carol, age 3 months

on North Sixteenth Street; renting

 

 

--------------- Children of Herman Zneimer ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Tillie Zneimer [father Herman Zneimer]

 

Herman Dembow and Selma Zneimer [father Herman Zneimer] md 1922

            David              b

            Charles            b

            Helen               b

 

lived in Jamaica, NY

8/2006:  Erv Hertz tried to contact Selma in 1944.

 

 

May Zneimer [father Herman Zneimer]

Lillian Zneimer [father Herman Zneimer]

 

Sidney Zneimer [father Herman Zneimer] and Ethel xx md 1927

Joel                  b 1930             d

 

1930 Federal Census NY, Bronx  Roll T626_1478, p4B, ED 443, image 1062

Sidney, head, 24 (married at 21), b. in NY, parents in Russia, salesman for Cleaning & Dying co.

Ethel, wife, 24 (married at 21), b. in NY, parents in Austria

Joel, son, 3 mo

on Taylor Ave.

 

Gertrude Zneimer [father Herman Zneimer]

 

--------------- Children of Edward Zneimer  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Leonard Zneimer [father Edward Zneimer] and Erna Zwilling  md

Annette                       b 9/24/1939 in Kingston, NY

Edward Joseph           b

 

He had a school on the Hudson River.  He and Erna stopped by my parents’ house in early 60’s (still in the little house).  Mom also visited Leonard’s house in Rhinebeck.

 

He is in the Who’s Who in the East, 1974-1975 & 1975-1976.

Leonard’s wife Erna Zneimer, (1/30/1914-3/1985) of Rhinebeck, NY; ssn:  066-14-9383

10/2002 – listing of Florida Deaths 1980-89 on ancestry.com puts Erna’s dates as 1/30/1912 – 3/26/1985; died in Palm Beach, FL.

 

Additional information removed to a non-public file.

 

 

Stephen Zneimer [father Edward Zneimer] and Selma (Sellie) Kohn  md

Richard           b 8/31/1944                 d 10/1996

Carole              b                                  d

 

Stephen is in Who’s Who in the East, 1986-1987 & Who’s Who Finance 1974-1990 (multiple listings).

Richard Zneimer, (8/31/1944-10/1996) of Dallas, PA; ssn:  164-38-5611

 

Additional information removed to a non-public file.

 

 

 

------------ Children of Yetta Zneimer  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Irving Rosenstein [mother Yetta Zneimer]

Samuel Rosenstein [mother Yetta Zneimer]

Joseph Rosenstein [mother Yetta Zneimer]

Bernard Rosenstein [mother Yetta Zneimer]

 

All other information removed to a non-public file

 

 

------------ Children of Fannie Zneimer  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Lillian Sable [mother Fannie Zneimer] md

All other information removed to a non-public file

 

 

Selma Sable [mother Fannie Zneimer] md

All other information removed to a non-public file

 

 

---------  end Grandchildren of Samuel Zneimer -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

 

------------  Grandchildren of Hirsch Zneimer ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

 

------------  Grandchildren of David Zneimer ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

 

------------  Grandchildren of Schmerl  Zneimer ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

Boris Zneimer [father David Zneimer] and

Karmii             b 1924             d 1943

Eleonora          b 1926

 

After 1917 Revolution, Boris (with Moisey and Bertha) move to Soviet Union.

 

Karmii died in 1943 as a soldier in the Red Army.

Eleonora emailed in 2005 from Ukraine.

 

 

Moisey Zneimer [father David Zneimer] and

Lev                  b                      d 1941

 

Lev died in 1941 as a soldier in the Red Army fighting near Moscow.

 

 

Bertha Zneimer [father David Zneimer] unmarried

 

Bertha taught languages in Moscow military academy; she married a Russian general and adopted his daughter, but had no children of her own.

 

 

 

****************** UK Zneimers & Neimers ************************

 

uksz      xx and Sarah Zneimer [father Benjamin Zneimer] md

Married & moved to US.  Husband died early; returned to UK.  Still alive in 1994-1995, had a 100th birthday party reported by Ivor Zneimer.

No children

 

            Nathan Zneimer [father Benjamin Zneimer] and

Died aged 19 in Africa.

 

            Alf Zneimer [father Benjamin Zneimer] and

Reported to have died 12 years prior to 1994-1995 aged 63 (math doesn’t agree).  Married out of Jewish faith, had one daughter Sylvia.

 

 

uksz2    Solomon Zneimer [father Benjamin Zneimer] and Rebecca Steinberg md

Matthew J       b 1926 Islington

Harold             b 1934 London

Ivor                 b 1936

 

from Ivor Zneimer:  Solomon b 6/7/1897 – d 1952, age 52.

from ancestry.com 9/2006:  Rebecca Zneimer, born 4/15/1900 died 7/1984 in Brent

Matt and Harold changed last names to Jackson.

 

10/2008, from Betty Linda Shiel, on behalf of Zneimer relation Geoff Rubins: 

In 1924, 27 year old Solly (Solomon) married Rebecca Steinberg.

 

 

ukjz      Jack Zneimer [father Benjamin Zneimer] and Florence M Rogerson

John                 b 1923 Holborn

Anne               b 192?

William David b 1926 Lambeth         d 2002

 

John and Anne were at Sarah Z’s 100th birthday party (as per Ivor).  [William] David is in Cyprus.

 

 

            Joseph Zneimer [father Benjamin Zneimer] and

Died 1993 aged 19, as per Ivor Z.  Lived in Brighton; married with no children.

 

            xx and Jessica Zneimer [father Benjamin Zneimer] md

            Abraham Zneimer [father Benjamin Zneimer] and

 

 

3/22/2004:  Found at http://webfamily.org.uk/Zneimer:  Margaret Josephine A. Zneimer (1914 – 1996)

from ancestry.com 9/2006:  Margaret Josephine A Zneimer, born 7/16/1914 died 2/1996 in Havering

 

 

------------  Grandchildren of Izor Hertz  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

xx xx and Beatrice Hertz [father Simon Hertz] md

Stanley Hertz [father Simon Hertz] and

Melvin Hertz [father Simon Hertz] and

Edward Hertz [father Simon Hertz] and

Fredel Hertz [father Simon Hertz] and

 

 

Saul Hertz [father Harry Hertz] and

Joseph Hertz [father Harry Hertz] and

xx and Frieda [father Harry Hertz] md

Lloyd Hertz [father Harry Hertz] and Barbara Banks md

Laurie

Danny

 

 

xx xx and Leah Hertz [father David Hertz] md

Myron Hertz [father David Hertz] and xx md

 

 

Paul Hertz [father Aaron Hertz] and

xx and Helen Hertz [father Aaron Hertz] md

 

 

Marcus Hertz [father Aaron Hertz] and

xx and Anna Grace Hertz [father Aaron Hertz] md

Erwin (Erv) Hertz [father Aaron Hertz] and xx md

 

 

Fred Hertz [father Abraham Hertz] and xx md

Richard Hertz [father Abraham Hertz] and xx md

 

 

 

---------------------- Children of Samuel Leavy Zneimer --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Sidney Zneimer [father Samuel L Zneimer] and xx md

 

1930 Federal Census Chicago, Cook Co, Ill, district 1439, 40th Ward

                Sidney Zneimer, age 23, single, born in NY, parents in Russia, manager variety store

                Marcher, mother, age 50, widowed, born in Russia, parents in Russia, immigrated 1900

North Spaulding Avenue.

 

7/2005:

Not sure if this is the right Sidney: 

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Zneimer&GRid=7764352&pt=Sidney%20Zneimer

Sidney Zneimer b. 2/6/1907  d. 5/23/1978, buried Memphis, TN at Beth Sholom Memorial Gardens

 

8/2006:  Erv Hertz met him in Minnesota.

 

 

xx and Minnie Zneimer [father Samuel L Zneimer] md

 

8/2006:  Erv Hertz met her in Minnesota.

 

 

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Znaimer

Are we related to the Znaimers?  Here is a link to Moses Znaimer

 

 

 


 

Generation 4 Families (great-great):

 

------------ Children of Samuel Zneimer ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Nicholas (x-Morris) Zneimer [father Samuel Zneimer] and Marie Williams md

Nicholas Jr.                 b 2/17/1891 in Argentina        d 10/1963 in IL ssn: 318-20-0119

Benjamin George        b 1894 in Argentina                d April, 1956 in Florida

Edward Anthony        b 10/30/1896 in Argentina      d 4/1977 in NJ  ssn:  139-07-5214

Berte Antoinette